as congress continues to push and pull on the strings of the farm bill that funds food stamps. rosa florez joins me now. what is driving the cuts this time? >> it's always something. remember the 2009 american recovery and reinvestment act? well, it included a boost in food stamp benefits and the money has run dry. when we talk cuts in food stamps, republicans are normally blamed. this time, the finger is pointed at the white house. it sounded like a great idea when it was launched. a program aimed in part at making school lunches healthier. >> we are determined to finally take on one of the most serious threats to their future. that's the epidemic of childhood obesity. >> reporter: to fund the war on obesity, the white house borrowed money from the war on hunger. >> some of the funding comes from rolling back a temporary increase in food stamp benefits or snap as it's called starting in the fall of 2013. >> reporter: that's now, when the snap program runs out of money from the 2009 american recovery and reinvestment act. >> after the cuts, the average benefit per person per meal is $1.40.